ferts?

[flyinghigh4204]

what do you guys recomend on organic ferts for soil ive been using fox farm soil(ocean forest) and using fox farm grow liguid fertilizer and I 1dont think its doing very well

[jackel]

well outdoors are these going to be in ur backyard or in the woods? cuz u dont wanna use organics in the woods.
y arent they doing so good?

[chief master bong]

why do u say no organics for in the woods?? I would prefer organic anytime i grow outdoors.

[jackel]

the reason is because critters like it too. most organics are made with blood n bone meal, fish and other nasty yet tasty smelling things to critters. they like to dig up ur plants looking for that "dead fish that has to be in here somewhere".

[flyinghigh4204]

it seems to be burning them there little spots almost in the middle of the leaves . i dont have a ppm reader but i think i'll go get one today. the plants will be not in the woods or near anything the harbors those kind of animals

[flyinghigh4204]

what ppm do you guy recomend for veg stage?

[jackel]

well use the directions on the back. most brands will have a feeding chart on there website or something. generally start off with a few 100 ppm, like 500. then ramp it up to 12-1400 or so when plants are old enuff

[chief master bong]

good call jackel, idk why i didnt think of that lol. i remember the last time i used blood meal which was only once i got maggots in my soil and never used it again but happy frog ive never had any bug problems with it. Just certain organic ingredients are more attractive to the critters I suppose. My humboldt nutes say to use non-chlorinated water and they also use reverse osmosis water so be careful with what u mix. Most brands have feed charts on there website but if ur using regular tap water let it sit for 24 hours before u mix anything and dont over do it. For instance use the "moderate" feed program and not the "heavy" feed program like they use with the reverse osmosis because u could wind up burning them very easily.

[flyinghigh4204]

ive herd people using distilled water and i was gana put out the question of why? is it better? maybe better for cloning? or germination? any ideas

[jackel]

personally, i dont buy it. i just use good ol tap water. i am off a well so its better than city water. plants in the wild dont use distilled water.

[flyinghigh4204]

i have well water as well, there a problem with the water softener though. I dont know if that has anything to do with anything. Maybe that why i have prroblems with cloning and germination rates this year. is there a way to test the quality of your water?

[jackel]

u can contact a local water treatment place and u can send them a sample (bring it to them) and they can test it. you may want to get a ph and ppm meter and test the water. that will tell you a lot too.

[flyinghigh4204]

Well the PPM at about 75%-80% is 400 for just regular water i donno what it is sopposed to be? i have to get some buffering solution for my ph tester, so i cant tell you that right now. whats regular tap water/well water ph?

[kmfdm4life]

Well if you water is over 200 or 300 ppms then you have hard water! I relly dont know what u can do abouy it, Gen hydro sells nutes just for hard water!
My water comes out my well at about 30 ppms!!

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[kmfdm4life]

Well if you water is over 200 or 300 ppms then you have hard water! I relly dont know what u can do abouy it, Gen hydro sells nutes just for hard water!
My water comes out my well at about 30 ppms!!

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