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Postby kmfdm4life » Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:09 pm

sonds good sticky, im going to post in mine now!, i made a rised bed!!lol!!

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Postby stiky dodo dumb » Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:59 pm

thats the grub, they where alive yesterday but died overnight i think -i dont know what they are, ill send a copy to whatsthatbug.com maby
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Postby stiky dodo dumb » Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:26 pm

i started the grandaddy flushing later last week with only a few tbs of soluble root stimulator (down to earth) in the water can, its got 40% humic acid and ive been substituting it for top max i had a whil ago. anyway i hope it can help cycle the nutrient out of the plants and ultimatly the pots over the next week and a half, tgu and a maui and romulan are going outside to finish cause i need all the space i can afford to grow right not. im vegging my next indoor crop under floresants, cloned a couple kush allready and have a dosen gdp and a few romulan rooting now. -eahter that romulan is gunna grow this round or im giveing up and i should have seeds crossed w/tgu for better growth. the hydro hut is maxed its compacity soo i need to get thoes to vugg under the 600hps as soon an the rain subsides, ill have the gdp outside flushing for another week the rest of the plants havent flushed yet -tgu is still clustering so it was probly 2 weeks till i flush her. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 009-16.jpg
granddady purple :arrow:
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overgrow 6 plants 1 square yard :arrow:
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i need to buy dirt still for the next 4 gdp to do in when i move them to biger lamps and wider spaces, ill get that done soon plus i will buy a couple of gallons of age old nutrient so i have grow for may and bloom for this resnt seed crop i have outside. -they havent flwoered yet but i allready found thrips on them and little green mites -the same stuff i see on the veggies, srayed them down with safer insect soap for that.

i know they dont get w whole lot of full sun a day, most of it is filtered through a trelus but they get morning sun till 2-3. no sighns of flowers yet but they have streached a little, even my brother said i dont need that big of a male plant but i want to make good and sure i have seeds this time. ive had undeveloped seeds indoors from hermi's but only one from outside that actuall had tiger stripes and germinated, i just want to let them go aslong as then need for the best seeds
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Postby kmfdm4life » Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:16 am

Well looks good as always!! I have all kids of dirt!! I have the dirt from down the street, its suppose to be organic, looks more like just alot of cow shit, with sand and some bark!! Then I have pro mix BX, and bonnies soilless mix!! Ill have to post soon, when i get time!! The male TGU that was OD truned purple but the female did not! The male also started to flower im fixen to make seeds and go in woods and dig holes! Ill try and get pics soon and post, fucken alot of shit to do!

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Postby stiky dodo dumb » Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:12 pm

yes lots of shit to do, ive got some dirt left over from filling veggi grow bags and then flower planter for my mom. its basically old reused dirt and kellogg garden soil, perlite and a bunch of compost from a local nursery. -ive got a little more ace compost and .5cf worm castings to use aswell as N-bat guano and more starter fertilizer. then 3 bags of happy frog 13.50 a bag, to mix with all that stuff and fill the 30 gallon grow bag for tgu. im getting some sheap keelogg shit for the ganja plot outdoors but for indoors im thinking of mixeing ocian forest and happyfrog this time with added perlite and kelp meal/starter fertilizer like allways. i need to by alot more dirt but the fertilizer has been ordered -1gal age old grow, 1gal age old bloom and a gal of their kelp to mix in like a cup per gallon of the grow/bloom in the fert can. im feeding bloom to the flowering crop and needed the grow cuz planting is a month away. i remember useing a quort of ageold kelp last year in the first month or so, i will keep the biobizz/kelp inside for that crop. i have 2 mixer proportioners soo i might try to get the spare one opperating to continue feeding threw the wand attachment to the garden hose when i have the irrigation set up -that'll be a last minute effort like after i work the soil more and get the spaceing down, i try to burry everything but the two shublers per plant soo the liquid in the hose doesnt get really hot and hurt the roots. it shouldnt get that hot but the hose in the sun def warms up and the water is really warm for like 20-30 seconds for me anyhow.
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Postby stiky dodo dumb » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:24 am

well i got some soil from the local nursery instead of home depot -the same ingeredients exept added alfalfa and it was a dollar more for a cubic foot less a bag. anyways i got still 4 weeks from the time i mixed it till i plant soo the chicken manure should calm down -it was an ingredient of the soil and compost, allready comosted plutry manure. for my grow bag i used that lef tover dirt and 2 bags or happy frog mixed in plus the same ammendments to the plot -dr earth starter and ebstron guano, i dont have any kelp meal cause the stores arnt stocking it - i gotta ask them to get more. the soil and compost had kelp soo its not too important. i also used the ocian forest soil i had in a tub indoors that had vermaculite mixed in, w/soo much vermaculite i got a small mag of chunky perlite from the hydro store i get soil and ill mix that in.

my kick ass soil recipy this time was easy to mix and deal with, i tosse dit together on a concreat slab walking around the pile scooping in and shakeing it up. took probly 5 mins to mix and another 5 to lug upstairs.

2 bags Ocian Forest soil 1.5cf x 2

1 bag Happy Frog soil 2cf x 1

1 small bag of chunky perlite from same hydro store

5 cupse of dr earth starter fertilizer -eaqual to a cup per cubic foot 2-4-2

2.5 cups e.b.stone kelp meal 1-0-1

2 cups e.b.stone guano 9-3-2

3 gallons of biobizz grow (molasses) 1tbs per gallon -applying evenly while mixeing to moisten thuroughly 2-.1-6.6

-i mixed that a few days ago and transplanted yesterday, also again today. put my 2 gallon pots to 5's and a maui that was in a 5 and busting out into a maby 13 gallon -15 gallon pot cut down to size. it'll vegg for another 20 day or soo befor i put it in the ground, this maui is as tall as the gdp's but its wider and most bulky with 4-5 tops it was looking odd at teh growth tips -eather root bound or fungus gnat attack. all 4 are up to the belt buckle now -with prayrs they take to the age old well and hit the ground running.

i did end up cutting tgu clones and flwoering the tgu beasts outdoors (still temps in the 40's :shock: ) cause this grows soo damb fast and last year i put yougn clones out and the tgu got about as big as i like it -maby too tall but not as tall as they would have been. still hopefully a pound a plant, a guy can set goals right :D

sorry no pics for a bit, ive cut and cured the gdp and am plushing the tgu, maui and romulan. the tgu has got frost bite -some leafs have lost green collor and texture like its turning white and dieing but only the leaf or a couple other leafs not all the branches and the maui and romulan are not effected by the cold exept for a fast maturity -quicker tiem for hairs to turn and flowers to cluster and form. the sunshin does alot for the buds and its getting hoter and hoter, then cooling off but enevitably warmer and warmer.

i seen some nuts on that tgu plant, just like pre flowers but their clustered. i will have 2 weeks or less of open polination then ill cut brnahces off and shake them around and get rid of the male. hopefully getting a first succesfull polination then have a chunk of sinsimilla growing ontop of that -i got weed not too long ago w/a gang of seeds but they wher big and i poped them out from insdie the buds and have mostly sensimilla now. i just hope i can acutally grow a viable seed again, that tgu plant is the only seed thats germinated or was developed that came from stuff ive grown.
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Postby stiky dodo dumb » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:47 am

i harvested the 4 gdp plants on good friday, cured them nice and got the wheigh in a few days ago. over 8 ounces 244 grams, i have a little maui and even less romulan drying now and tgu being trimed up tp hang dry after i smoke a bowl.

theirs dosens of balls on the male tgu, i have tuff on all of the female clones soo their on schedual or a little quicker then the male -like the male flower needs to mature befor opening and pollinating, id like the pre flowers to polinate the first round of hairs then have a sensimilla bud growing ontop of a few really mature -hopefully really huge seeds. id like to avoid the small undeveloped shit and have big ass seeds growing in the first wave of calixes then a lot of sensimilla after that. oh and i have 2 tgu just now flowering, hopefully its shaded on the east side of our house -the plants ar eunder a trellis and up against the house soo they survived the frosts but i hope they keep flowering. the shade might or might not have a thing to do with the photoperiod, if its light outside.. i though plants grown in shadier locations mature earlier so theas would mature regardless, should harvest in mid june -so im kinda playing it my chance with the days getting longer and longer. i dont have anything els flowering now, got some clones 100% rooted misting w/a few drops alg-a-mic per 12 oz spraybottle and a few drops of root juice onto the oasis cubes what the roots first begin to show -also a few drops of alg-a-mic. just a little and i wash the bottle out and then foliar spray just alg-a-mic again a few drops, from liek 20 clones i had 1 leaf turn color and fall off the rest where as healthy as the time they where cut exept a few hours after cuting and diping in rootech jell. -i foliar spray after cutting and dip them into rootech ASAP after cuting at an angle and scraping the stem or slighly wounding it with the fiskars or cutting tool, i want to dip it emediatly befor the cells can scab or seal and this happends in second from what i read. the quicker after cuting to the diping the better is all, i opened the dome once or twice a day for just a few seconds not even all the way just up a little and back down. if anyone is looking for oasis cubes get the smaller ones, they have better oxigen ratio i think. i cut the larg cubes in quorter and used some, use the rest to help keep the tray humid soo the clones dont have to release as much of their moisture.

a new guy at the hydro shop sayed i was the only one the sayed good things about rootech, i sayed its that and oasis cubes -i have often got 100% with that combination. also im useing new addatives, jackel used rootjuice some time ago with his ez cloner i think. thats where i got the idea to use that for my oasis clones, i have a hunch alg-a-mic is the best kelp concentrate on the market but its expensive i havent looked at maxi crop but age old kelp is dark black like their grow and bloom and i sort of like the soialnt green color of alg-a-mic. it looks like organically consentrated seaweed, thick and green and smells like the ocian even :D
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Postby kmfdm4life » Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:55 am

I use water,rockwool and TakeRoot powder in a cooler or tube with plastick wrape on top and have not lost a TGU clone yet, Althrough i took my last to late into flower, not shure if im gonna grow them or get more clones from OD plants and kill them!!
I will have to get more rockwool or cubes soon! Ive been useing the rockwool I orderd when i first started in here 3 or 4 or 5 years ago!! Sorry not mean to hijack your thread!!

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Postby jackel » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:54 am

actually sticky, the best thing to do if u still want some sensi buds, is to pollinate late in flower using a q-tip. pollinate the lower branches leaving the main one untouched. of course the wind will blow the pollen around and i will prob get seeds in it, its the best way to get the best of both worlds. once a pistols are polinated, the buds pretty much stop forming. the plants purpose in life is to reproduce, once its pollinated it thinks its jobs done pretty much.
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Postby stiky dodo dumb » Sun May 03, 2009 2:14 am

ill try that q-tip idea when the storm passes but i wes useing a small soft bruch to manually polinate a little. id punch an opened flower with the bannanas and gently rub them to get the pollen onto the brush, it was early but the hairs where their. ill try again and then just kill it. ive got 4 medium size gdp a few weeks from flowering and 2 master kush i just topped and ill probly vegg another month, then 5 gdp clones that are just getting leafy. so i have some indoor supply and if i can tie theas plants down right im useing top max again starting lightly in vegg i got a fuckin half pound and over 1/4ounce last time of just the 4 gdp plants, i think im gunna stick with master kush and gdp indoors and have lots of tgu outdoors and lots of maui -i like maui indoors too, but i dont think gdp has as much pm tendency. -i still get it but i use sarinade and mildue cure, i swear that mildue cure stuff works -i get it from humbolt hydroponics for like 11.99 a pint, i dont know why it didnt work w/jackels crop but maby it was a bad consentrate -i use a 24 ounce spray bottle that 4 cups fills to just under the brim, soo i use less then 1/4 the bottles instucted dose per gallon (4 cups to a quort, 4 quorts to a gallon) i only use 1/4 ounce per the tottal 32 ounces in the spray bottle. i swear the stuff kills pm ill still use sarinade for botrytis but this stuff is cheap and i really dont mind useing it a few times a month even as i begin to flush plants 2 weeks befor harvest. im getting a 420 scop for my birthday so i should be able to see if the suff desroys trichobs or not, it is made of 83% oil soo the theory reson is oil soluble is kinda scary to me.
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Postby stiky dodo dumb » Sat May 16, 2009 10:36 am

my temps are up into the 90's so today im geting the portable ac out and riging up the grow for split photosynthasis. right now the hut gets left open and is on the same cycle as the 600w soo when my ac get hooked up ill turn it on when the 400 goes off -gotta corispond w/the heat of the day and whe the grow room gets in barable. soo im thinking 11-12 till 7-8 at night, or 10-6 soo i dont flip the switch in the fuise box haveing it all on at once.

i was working yesterday tieing plants down after cuting away some scrony lower brnahces a few days ago -it was 93f under the lamp and 33% humidity i was uncomfortable and had sweat runing down my face. the runt of my 4 GDPs cracked in half a little trying to tie it down and it just got wors an wors then i got pised off and snaped it stem. it was the weekest link anyways like the soil would stay wet when the others ar ebone dry -eather bad soil or root system but i find an expansive root system will use up water alot faster then a 5 gal pot with half the root mass. you can see it would of only yealded an ounce if flowered while the others would yeald closer to two imaginativly. they where all cloned on the same time and are probly 2 months old- the same clone lot as the ones im seeding outside. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 002-16.jpg
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i blame the problem w/that small plant on air flow cause the soil just didnt dry out enough over time -in the hydro hut it could have been shaded from the lamp enough not to dry out and the fan was blowing toward the opposite wall not realow blowing towards the runt -i dint rotate them benond a 180 spin when ever i had to spray for powdery mildue. it honestly the first time soo it could have been something els -im thinking environmental caus i gave them the same time per pot when feeding -i could to 30 for each one then go back over them in a half hour for another 30sec a pot, if their run off then try for less time next aplication and just so you know the pot is heavy and well saturated. ive give pots a day between feedings but resently with the extreem environment change im watering my 5 gal pots every day -their huge palnts and have a well established root system, in theas pots for over a month allready they dry out as fast as my 1 gallon pots -that runt was the only plant i had to give a day of drought even then it was still a bit heavy and not compleatly dry im glad its gone but not really :lol:

the master kush on the right will be flowered in 2-3 more weeks, or longer depending when i get it in a 5 gallon pot and the secondary growht comes in alot more -like the gdp's. i put the better of the 2 outside and super croped the other so it stays a little bushy as it grows out and up causeing more top buds and an eaven canopy.
thoes other plants are 5 GDP that have been toped allready and im fixing to transpalnt them to squat 5 gal pots -dif biger pots still squat they look biger though http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 004-16.jpg -pics are few days old
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