Pics of the Girls

[FSMinvleo]

Here's a link to the pics. New pics coming very soon cause they're budding. The early pics show where it started, whats left is 2 White Satin, 1 Cinnimon Kush, and 1 Thai Haze/Skunk cross.

http://s234.photobucket.com/albums/ee3/FSMinvleo/

[chief master bong]

nice garden wut kinda light(s) r u usin?

[FSMinvleo]

Using 1 400w HPS with 1 400w MH with the hoods attached so that the light distributes evenly from both bulbs. Provides full spectrum grow, but in this style, only 250w of HPS are necessary to provide the amount of red spectrum that is needed with 400w MH, however, the Thai haze has such a growth vigor, I wish I never topped it. It is 6 foot tall with 10 main shoots, I topped it ONCE as a sproutling, it grew its own secondary shoots that topped themselves. Its an incredible plant, and I am definately gonna regenerate it, just wish it didn't take up MOST of my grow room space. I may be adding some extra lights under the plants to make up for the incredible vigor of the haze.

[FSMinvleo]

just put a new pic up of one of the satin flowers in its early stage. the haze and kush flowers are too sativa to be clear in a low grade digital pic yet, so watch for updates regularly.

[jackel]

if its 6ft u will never be able to flower it. u need to chop it down to like 2-3 ft and flower unless ur gonna make a mother out of it.. either way u need to chop it down some

[FSMinvleo]

According to the label, this is supposed to grow that tall, and its showing early flowers just fine. Its a sativa, so it grows tall to begin with, this particular species is typical at 6+ feet at the top colas. I'll keep updated pics coming in, but she looks beautiful so far.

[the Magical man]

Thing is.... an mj plant will pretty much double in-size from veg to end of flower.

[FSMinvleo]

most will double, some will triple in size in the process of flowering. Apparently, jackel hasn't grown a pure sativa before, cause I have never met a sativa that ends under 5 ft tall yet. And I start to flower at 8 inches tall with every plant. The thai haze/skunk 1 cross went from 8 inches to over 6 ft. tall before it started to really show buds. Hairs were obvious at one week, but she's really budding now at 4 weeks. She has a 75 day flowering time, I can't wait to smoke her.

[stiky dodo dumb]

ima have to ask a few questions hear and im just looking for clarity, about how long have thoes 5-6 footers been on the 12/12 cycle, how far away are your lights from the plants (if the light is stationary give the distance from the floor up to it) last question -how many cycles have you done in this area, im curiouse and would like to help your

plants just dont streach that much unless the light is too far away and their waiting till its close enough to the lamp to flower. i cant say much on the subject besides the internode streaching looks sort of sativa but the bottom of your plants wond be a full or near as productive as the top side that gets the most of the light.

ASLO, more importantly; the spectrum flowering plants requier is RED not BULE, even if you are a novist and know more then god and I -HPS 600 or a 100w is what you need for that grow my frend, dont get sucked into 'fullspectrume lighting' n shit. reserch has shown the optimal lighting to flower is HPS, 250 wats is sure not enough to give the benefical spectrum all the way to the floor! I know that much, I also try to keep my lamp less the a foot from the tops.. so the rest of the plant wont be underdeveloped and wispy when the tops are thick, dince and done.

i aint picken anything wich ya, just need information so i can help a brotha out.

[FSMinvleo]

The optimal lighting for any vegetation, mj or otherwise, is the sun. The sun gives a full spectrum of light from blue to red. the blue is more prevelant in the spring and early summer, the red is more prevelant in the late summer early autumn when you harvest. Therefor, in vegetative state, 400w MH with 250w HPS provides the closest to the natural spectrum of the sun in that time of year. with 400w MH and 400w HPS, you mimick the sun of the bloom and harvest season. If you are able, there is a 2 in 1 1000w bulb:

The SOLARMAX "ONE" 1000 Watt Dual Arc Metal Halide and High Pressure Sodium Lamp The biggest advancement made in HID sources for plant growth was to enhance the inherent deficiencies of either HP Sodium (not enough blue) or Metal Halide (not enough orange / red). By combining the two in to one bulb, plants get the full spectral projection they would get from the sun.

You can still use one or the other, but I have found that I get much better growth and much denser buds this way. And the growth make for great hash and teas.

[FSMinvleo]

The plants in the photos have been in the bud cycle for 5 weeks and are showing great early buds. The haze has a 75 day finish time and the satin a 65 day. Here is some info on the tall one...

Breeder : Sam the Skunkman
Flowering Time : 12 weeks
Environment : INDOOR/OUTDOOR/GREENHOUSE
Seeds Per Pack : 10

From one of the most knowledgeable and respected members of the cannabis community, Sam the Skunkman, we have his new F1 Hybrid that for the connoisseur grower should prove to be outstanding.

This is for the true sativa lover, and not for inexperienced growers. This variety requires a larger grow area than the shorter flowering indoor indicas, and will require around 12 weeks to complete.

There is plenty of talk out there about how tall and how much space they take up, and it is all 100% true. They are beasts. I wont grow another indoors. I recommend the thai haze x skunk 1 be grown outdoors or greenhouse where it can get as tall as it wants.

It is currently trying to exceed the maximum height in my grow room. I am beginning the bending process to avoid it touching the lights. It started growing in 12/12 so fast that the lights had to be raised daily. Kept at a 20 inch distance. It is now, as I said, to the point i am tying them down before they touch the bulbs. I have an 8 foot ceiling in the room, but it seems I may need a taller room.

Believe me when I say that this girl is not wasting any space. There is bud from top to bottom, trouble getting light to the bottoms now, but working on that. tops will be harvested and bottom will be allowed to continue when the time comes, but I have heard they can take a long time to finish sometimes. However, word is, at 20% or more THC, it is well worth the wait.

[FSMinvleo]

Cannabis Sativa - A late flowering plant grown grown in equatorial regions where the growing season is hotter. It can be grown indoors but requires a lot of tying because of the height. Cannabis sativa , is a tall plant, generally between 8 and 12 feet (outdoors) can be found in Central (Mexico) and South America (Columbia, Brazil), Caribbean (Jamaica) and South East Asia (Thailand). The leaves have long thin fingers, are light green and have less chlorophyll. The more equatorial varieties have more yellow pigments to protect the plant from intense light. As Sativa strains have less chlorophyll than Indica they take longer to grow, mature, and require more light.

Sativa buds are long and thin and in cooler environments they may be slightly purple. Sativa plants smell sweet and fruity and the smoke is generally quite mild. It is a source of fiber for rope and other products and it contains THC, which gives smokers an energetic, cerebral high, which can stimulate brain activity.

[FSMinvleo]

Cannabis Indica - A short bushy plant with broad leaves. This is a popular choice for indoor growers. Indica plants are short (between 3 and 6 feet), bushy and mature early. They can be found in Central Asia (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kashmir, India), Middle East (Lebanon, Turkey) and North Africa (Morocco). The leaves are dark green sometimes tinged with purple. They contain more chlorophyll and less accessory pigments )accessory pigments protect the plant from excessive sunlight). As Indica strains have more chlorophyll than Sativa they grow and mature faster.

Indica buds are chunky and dense, and have a strong "pungent" or "skunky" smell. The smoke from Indicas is generally thick and more prone to cause coughing when inhaled. They are not used as a source for fibre as the fibre would be too short, so they mainly have been used as a traditional source for making hashish. Indica strains have a heavy, body buzz that is relaxing and can help different medical problems.

[FSMinvleo]

Cannabis Ruderalis - This plant is characterized by its early flowering, with some plants starting irrespective of the photo-period. Cannabis Ruderalis, translates to "Roadside Cannabis", is a debated third variety of cannabis found in Russia, Poland, and other eastern Europen countries. It is a wild plant that grows no more than 24 inches in height, has skinny leaves and flowers in an extremely short amount of time. Ruderalis will flower when the plant grows its' 5th to 7th internodes (5-7th set of true leave sets) regardless of photo-period.

It has almost no value for psychoactive compounds. But it has been used for a few years now to shorten the photoperiod of other strains, because the overall potency of the hybrid is brought up by the sativa/indica. Subsequently the resulting hybrid will be only slight less potent and yet have a much shorter photoperiod.

[jackel]

i already know all that. and iv grown sativas as well. and u CAN keep them shorter. if u have 8ft tall sativas indoors, ur either growing in the 80's, or ur not growing it right.. either way its not correct.