Here it goes... my first grow...

[knifetish]

Ah ok. I will keep the pots I have now, I just don't want to get some 5 gals, and have my plants sky rocket to 3-5 ft tall plants, this is in a closet so 1.5-2 ft plants at max after budding.

Yea it really is hard to tell whats going on. The leaves that are fuicking up are all on the same level... everything else looks fine. Here is where I go when I fidn something wrong:

http://www.planetganja.com/highsociety/ ... php?t=8778
Good, picture loaded site, for any probs.

Next batch perhaps larger pots though. I will water them in the morning as well as spray them at night, hopefully that will be sufficient. Thanks.

[knifetish]

ok jsut to recap (remember this IS my first grow):

1. After the plant gets 9-12 inches, start the 12/12. No more fans.
(should I lighten up on watering also, or no?)

2. During the 6 weeks of flowering/budding, before the last 2-3 weeks I need to drain the plant (pour twice-three times as much water as the container can hold) to drain the ferts and usage.

3. Look for 60-70% red hairs, the time has come to cut em down.

4. Hang up for about 5 days.

5. Stick in jar opne every other day for 10-15 mins for another 5 days.

6. DONE.

Next time I think I am going to start with better soil and a little bigger pots.

[jackel]

just a couple errors that are easily fixed..
1. After the plant gets 9-12 inches, start the 12/12. No more fans.
(should I lighten up on watering also, or no?)
No, u want to leave fans ON.. no need to turn fans off they like the breeze. always water when they need it. that never changes (just change to a bloom fertilizer)
2. not all plants take 6 weeks to flower. most take at least 8weeks. u dont have to run 2x as much water as pot for the last 2 weeks, u want to do that once or twice, but just feed them plain water for those last 2 weeks.
4. hang upside down in DARK room with oscilating fans on Until stems Snap (u will hear it). if it bends and does not break, leave it there..

[knifetish]

Very nice advice jackel. I had everything cept the fans leave on, and being able to fluch twice, along with letting them bud a little longer, I just didnt want them to detriorate, becasue I have no idea the strain . My plants are looking very nice now. I would have pics but if you look at my last oncs they are almost twice as tall and easily 2-3 times larger in width, leaves. Probably abour 7-8 inches.

Looks like 1.5-2 more weeks and its time for the 12/12 I really hope they aren't both male, I will cry.

[knifetish]

yo the smell is killing me. I killed all the back ups to try and help but I walk in after being out and it REEKS. I already have a big coal/carbon filter in teh closet and it is not doing anything Someone help me with the smell so I dont have to shut the closet door all day, I would rather keep it open and run the fans for ventilation.

also i am in a 1 bdrm aprt. no one can smell these babies through walls right? just if they were to come in.

[stiky dodo dumb]

ona blocks should help out a bit, they have sprays too. its non toxic oder nutrilizing agent, http://www.ecogrow.com/index.cfm/mid/18 ... ersMa.html

[knifetish]

Plants are doing well. I am using flos as you know, 3 blue light flos and 2 red light flos. I was wondering when I flower if I should change all the bulbs to red. I am only going to grow two plants at a time so the light is plenty.

Yea the plants are REAL healthy, about 7-8 inches and real bushy. They grew out more than up. I transplanted them into gallon buckets. I will get pciks up tonight or tomarrow. I only want about 15 inchea after budding... should I I start the 12/12 yet? I was going to wait another 3 inches, I just don't want to have not enough light for my budding ladies if they get to tall/big

Honestly I think I am groing blue berry, I walked into the place last night and I swear it smelt like blueberry pie. That also explains why they need constant attention and are such a biatch to grow. Check back soon I'll have pics.

[stiky dodo dumb]

well id say get your self some twin or something, anything to tie little branches to the side. you wont gat much if anything to smoke, i dont remember what i got off my floro grow a while back but the buds where not dince at all. http://www.concept420.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=125 i also ran into a ph problem i think towards the end, so check your ph often. you should be flushing every month or so but still if your ph is off things can go bad in a hurry.
so ya, if you want a short plant still keeping the floresants less then 2 inches away from buds and floliage tie the branches down. just make a few hole wher you need them along the galion pot, then use that to loop through.
topping the plants early on will ensure it dosen't get any taller, but tieing the branhces down as they grow allows you to adgust just how tall each one gets. also you can expose other shoots that would otherwize be shaded and a waist of energy for the plant grown under floresants. that means any growth under what your expecting to flower (and keep with benafitial(SP) reach of your CFL's) isnt getting enough lumens to generate photosythasis much less flower like its supost(sp) to.

im not trying to knock anything you got, just pointing you in the direction of what you could do with what you have and what you would get out of it. put more in . . . get more out.. naturally, HID lights are leaps and bounds better then floresants. my $00.02 anywayz

[knifetish]

yea i heard all the stuff about the HPS and MID. but i can't afford it in so many ways space, ventallation, electricity. You guys can do all the math you want but I only have two plants and will never grow anymore, also this is for personal use only. I would tie the plants but i got the adjustable lights near teh soil going (shining) upwards and on top a fixture with the 4ft long flos so the whole plant is lit up.

This is also my experimentation. It is hard to do thinkgs for the plant now when I really don't know what the hell I am growing. right now their 9 inches, ever since I transplanted them they grew like an inch in two days, no to mention the outward growth. I'll start budding soon. If I have to bud them a week longer becasue of the flos then so be it, but my closet is like 5ft by 6ft, so I would burn my house down with a HPS. mI'll post pics around midnight.

EDIT: oh yea, so should I clip the fan leaves blocking the bud sites? there are a few blocking it... I was confused by your link to your post... was it a good idea or no?

[knifetish]

well im basically screwed. I grew my plants to about 9 inches, decentley bushy. I transplanted them into gallow buckets about a week before. So I said ok they are going to grow 30-40% bigger, well i was mis informed. After teh first TWO days of 12/12 they want fomr 9 inches slightly bushy to almost 12 inches and 30% more bushy. I mean wtf is going on, I can only hold likd 14 inches. I know I can tie them over but at this rate I will be screwed!! do they slow down growing or what my plants are becomming HUGE.

I never thought they would because I am using FLOS, got about 6 compacts runnin on 3 plants. seriously guys i need this budding to happen no and fast, i need some pointers.

I would submit pics but putfile now doesnt let you delete what you put up there so it can track the illegal shit or w/e.

[Smokie]

woah, most people are happy when their plants are growing that quickly

you can sign up for a photobucket.com account to host/delete pics whenever you want btw.

[knifetish]

ok let me get come pics up in here.... i'll edit this post... with em

Ok here is my best plant #1:

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n102 ... 230053.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n102 ... 230050.jpg

My lady #2 (gorwing a little weird):

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n102 ... 230051.jpg

And #3 (this one was meant as a back up, but figured what the hell i'll do three -seems to be a whole other strain):

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n102 ... 230052.jpg


Measurments:
Here is me measuring them, this is the length for all its actually a little above 11 inches:

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n102 ... 230056.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n102 ... 230057.jpg

Our of curiousty, anyone want to give me a yield estimate? Just started 12/12 on a timer two days ago. Let me know what you guys think, remember don't be too harsh this is my first grow!!

[stiky dodo dumb]

flowering is alltogether differant then vegg, with floresants you'll want to prun back the lower growth. not all at once but any floiage over 3-4 inches from light might not produce, you can keep some of the lower brnahces that rize up to a few inches from the lights but anything that isnt getting benafitial light to convert in photosythasis is a waist of energy for the plant. esspesally in flower.. CFL's just dont penatrate as well as HID lights (they would only get the top layer of buds and foliage)

i estimate your yeald at less then a half ounce of dry bud, dry airy- pack a bowl ends up as half a bowl type shit. if you get anymore then 14 grams your damb lucky.

[stiky dodo dumb]

[quote= EDIT: oh yea, so should I clip the fan leaves blocking the bud sites? there are a few blocking it... I was confused by your link to your post... was it a good idea or no?[/quote]

no it wasnt a good idea, the buds dont need light as mich as leafs. the leafs at the crotch of every growht node are like solar panals (thanks to heymen guy for that one), the buds ge their engery from that. sure they produce their own leafs once they fillout but i wouldnt cut any leafs, just tuck them under and away from any would be bud sites.
i wouldnt mess with the leafs, they would be the first place to find evedince of a problem with your plant.. on top of being its life sorce...

that was my expeiment.. to se if anything could grow in my closet under my supervision and TLC, it did grow but i made a huge mistake. i dint invest in a $5 PH kit that could of let me know something was up befor it all went bad, not totally bad but i knew something was up when i had necrotic parts forming on the remaining leafs right next to the buds.

oh ya.. dont let the lights fall onto and burn your buds, you'll have to cut the dead matter away if it does ..

[d4rpa.]

Their growing faster than I expected they would when you first started the thread! Nice job.