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Postby stiky dodo dumb » Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:58 pm

so my temps are a little low but ending the day at 77 around the perimiter and 79 under the lamps starting at 68 or so -checked an hour or so after the lamp and intake fan turn on.
i have somewhat small buds on the gdp so im gunna stof useing earth juice grow near as much and no more bio grow -only bio bloom and kelp and top max and liquid karma from here on out :lol: i had some LK i found lying around so im useing it -top max is basically the same thing but LK is suposed to have alot of organic componds that the other stuf hasnt got woooo :) their both spendy so ill stick with the top max i think im useing too much though, their bottle says to use as much as their other nurients -a tsp to a tbs per gallon every feeding so im going to drop that back some too. im only useing earth juice bloom to subtitute primal harvest guano soo i should cut that back anyway -i would have top dressed as i put the blants in to the flower area but thats too messy so i got the eatra organic liquid.
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romulan buds, theas are much better and stronger after cureing. its a low yeald and the big buds where choped up eventually to nice nugs soo im hopeing for more of that shit later, the maui is supriem and i like it but this is a little dif like some durban ive had once -very nice and fruity but a head kickn' sativa.

theas tgu plants didnt yeald 2 ounces, ive goten 2 onces off of 1 tgu plant befor but they where huge plants. i thought they would produve more http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /032-2.jpg
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Postby kmfdm4life » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:19 pm

so my temps are a little low but ending the day at 77 around the perimiter and 79 under the lamps starting

I worry if my temps get abouve 75, and dont forget my grow room is 4x2 and has 650 watts of light 8)
Its been getting to aroung 80 in there the last couple of nights!! Almost already time to put A/C back in window!!
Also about wight, Im only getting around 1 1/2 per plant average! But its only takeing about 90 days or so!!

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Postby stiky dodo dumb » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:27 am

tonight my room went dark @ 79-81 degree from under and around the cannopy and 41% humidity -the other day it was 84 un the grow room and it might of got hotter -as soon as it heats up outside my intake fan becomes useless to cool the room, my vegg cab creats a steady amount of heat allong w/the radient warmth from the lamps.. if it gets 80-90 outside ill have to move my plants and set up the ac then get the plants back in their next to it, im crampt in their and honestly im just glad if the temps are below 90f-95f if that happends and humidity drops ill hatter a little less a little more often and see if it helps but a portable ac will take moisture from the air aswell as heat adding cool dry air i think.

i was happy to get temps steady under 80 and over 65 for a while their, my last gdp crop was dark purple like black grapes -its cool but i want to keep them healthy, i doubt ill get purps again if its warming but theirs a frost comeing soon so cooling down.

well im really likeing the bio bizz nutrients i dont think i got theas pics up, their of the last harvest that has been cured and mostly all smoked up by now- the romulan had to cure for full flavor and effect but its worth haveing around unless it craps on me in the vegg department -im not puting it outside, it was too small -smaller then my tgu starts even and i am replaceing it with eather a gdp or tgu plant, haveing 3 gdp outside would increase the yeald for sure but thats half my crop -i might have 3 tgu and just get stupid yealds like i was supposed to last year w/o bud worms. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /031-3.jpg

thttp://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62 ... /024-7.jpg his maui was great stuff, not alot on it but i think the bio bizz did it good -it also got primal harvest early on and top max in the last few weeks of feeding befor the last 2 weeks of flushing and alg-a-mic since i got the stuff -it bunt to a white ash and was just supriem. i even messed up and gave it powder sugar a tsp per 4gal -not alot but powder sugar has cornstarch added wich i didnt know- i only added it once the first tiem i flushed starting the 2 water only weeks befor harvest. i used to give them molasses in the end but now i will give a little bit of down to earth root stimulator with water to start the 2 weeks no feed befor harvest i am actually flushing 3-4 gal through the mk pots each time i have to water them -their the first ones i added root stimulator to as an experiment plus im adding this dirt to the outdoor weed garden so its all recycled -im working to keep my plants as healthy as possable up to harvest but also focusing on the nutrient cycleing capabilities of fungi from the soil and the plant -if this if promoted then the plant can flush itself faster and halthier -the idea is just adding more fungi when it could be killed off by the amount of water you flush that isnt allowed to sit and have the clorien levels drop -i want to harvest my plants at their healtheist but still have the best/most potent bud -im getting a 420 scope for my birthday an upgrade from my 30x juelers mag yay :D

also some tgu plants, they didnt yeald like i hoped but i also flushed way too long/didnt keep track. i dont like this frigin 30x microscope its a loop-thing and doesnt work ferry well. i have pice i took yesterday uploading so i should have resent pics of the male TGU and how i tied it down recently, i couldnt get good pics of the master kush but it looks ready and is 1/2 way through its flush - stleast one has a gumbo aroma to it, they started with an earthy sort of chicken broth aroma beleave it or not- and hardly any pm, romulan has pm tendency more then this mk -im hopeing it it rot resistant too for next year cause i broke my best one in half this year/a bad super croping experience but i had good supercroped plants i just have to remember to remove the sturdy tie/garbage tie from the plant and bamboo stick so that it doesnt choke the plant and restict the stem growth also being gentle not to cut the small plants stems holting the twist ties w/both hands.
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Postby kmfdm4life » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:13 pm

If it got that hot in my closet, I would get upset!! :evil: Thats one reason I grow at night 8) Its cooler!! Hell, here it stays at night n the high 70tis to mid 80tis for 3 monthes it seems!!
Well I hope all goes well, that one pic I saw before, the other want show!!

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Postby stiky dodo dumb » Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:40 am

i was out of alg-a-mic for a week or so, but i steped up the earth juice nutrients a little because they have some kelp but also other goods thats the reason i added it to begin/w. it was 3tsp biobizz grow + 2tsp earth juice grow + 1 tsp earth juice bloom + 2tsp liquid karma(i found it lying around and desided to use it up, i probly wont buy anymore cuz ive used topmax with ok results but it was a low humic acid content and other stuff topmax dosent have for me.) now i just add some bio bloom in with the bio grow for added p in my vegg solution, i dont want to buy soo many things it gets expensive and im geting geared up for outdoor spending on that resently soo the earth juice is used more sparing ly theas days but ill use it still for nitogen deficency in vegg and a p boost into bloom -just not as heavy like it was.

im also out of topmax, well my store is out of the fresh liters and only have the older gallons. i jsut dont need a whole gallon of that cuz i was useing too much this last crop i think, no burning just went threw it too fast -for an addative ill cut it in half and see if i get the same reuslts, and avoid useing it and soluble root stimulator at the same time.

ive been useing a lot of bio bizz nutrients and the last crop was all mio bizz besides primal harvest going into 12/12 and some pbp soil/bloom i had befor bio bizz and still have sitting around. cuting out the primal harvest and pbp nutrient i got some earth juice to supliment in both vegg and bloom cause they have more diverse ingredients then bio bizz but i am attracted still to bio bizz as a base nutrient and love the sezults soo far-both the plants i vagged beofr and are flowering now and the last crop that is just now on the last half of GDP :lol:
ive got much biger plants now soo hoefully a biger yeald, most of this is due to biogrow and alfalfa i think but also kelp, i use a gang of kelp -its in my soil but i add more kelp meal, its in my bio-bloom but i add more -i think its important to use it in vegg aswell as all threw bloom, it keeps plants healthy and alg-a-mic is sold as a stimilator in some online stores -i think its really a vitality booster.

i was useing 3tsp eathjuice bloom 0-3-1 + 3tsp biobloom 1.1-2.5-2 + 2tsp biogrow 2-.1-6.6 (theas are my basic npk nutrients high in p but boosted in k by the molasses based biogrow adding some nitrogen) +3tsp alg-a-mic(droping that in half or down to 2tsp per gallon, ill use the high dose as a tonic maby if a plant was too dry and needs to be nursed back. +1.5tsp liquid karma + 2tsp top max (i was useing asmuch as 3tsp per gallon but thats what they intend on the bottle, maby too much ill cut back to 1.5tsp when i buy it again) -this was for bloom and i feed all my plants in flower the same stuff at the same time exept if their flushing cause it just easier that way. i will say ive focused the potency of the npk nutrients around the concept of what the earth juice bottle says (munual applications Mild 1/2 tbs-Norml 1tbs-Strong 2tbs-Xtra Strong 3tbs [general use rates per gallon 3.75ml of water] -container plants 1tbs every watering or minimum of once a month.) thats lead me to beleave earht juice wouldnt burn the plants added to the bio bizz mix allready, it would instead provide the p-guano i usually added but in as a top dressing. - i dont think the primal harvest burnt the plants at like 2cups per pot but the earth juice def didnt burn.
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Postby stiky dodo dumb » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:43 pm

now that im turnin the corner on this crop my hairs are still all white but the gdp is the furthest allong -i think it was flowered first anyways. i have a larg tgu http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 011-12.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /017-8.jpg with larg tuffs still little defenition and a small maui and a smaller romulan all with tuffs still -i may give them a dif solution w/a ratio of bio grow still for that extra nitrogen, i wont add earth grow to the blom solution if i need nitrogen ill use bio-grow and wont woory about all the k it has got. the earth juice is my vegg addative and i want to focus on theas dutch nutrients haveing earth juice around as addaitves for a boost of incase of deficancy. i add a cupe of blood meal per every 2 bags of dirt so i dont have nitrogen deficancy -not every yellow leaf or imperfict elaf in n-deficancy sometimes its a watering discrepency and sometimes their are bugs eating your roots causieng damage/stress.

now i am useing 3tsp bio bloom + 1.5tsp earth juice + 1.5tsp alg-a-mic +1tsp liquid karma +1.5tsp top max when i can find it and i may add some bio grow if i feel. right now ive added some soluble root stimulator that has humic acid but i dont want to use it every watering -that maby way too much fungi soo ill use it bi-weekly and still look for top max -i think it has fulvic so i wont need to look for fulvic acid, i was reading about it reacly -intersting stuff.

this is romulan, she isnt vegetating not doing much at all so its not going outside and i dont know if it's a keeper. def some taisty and quality smoke but if it doesnt grow... http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 001-13.jpg
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maui harvested the same time, again very taisty quality smoke jsut not alot to work with though i didnt vegg worth a dang.
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a GDP nug we where smokin wall takin picturs, http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 006-13.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 005-13.jpg

some red ball pepper sprouts started under a 43w cfl inside now i keep it outside just under an overhang at night also w/a humidity dome to protect from frost, once in soil they should need the dome. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /007-3.jpg i might keep some but it was more for experiment/something to look at. i have got tomatillos from befor done the same way but 2 per oasis cube cause seeds are smaller -the osis material is shaved off mostly being carefull of the roots, i dont like leaveing behind exess oasis material caus it drie out much faster the the spoil around it -oxigen rich yes but it can become sort of an air pocket or dry area i dont like. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 008-13.jpg i have tomatoes too http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /009-1.jpg
EDIT :arrow: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /010-9.jpg this is of my flower area after my extra door to my hydro hut (the part that allong w/a pellow keeps light from bleeding into the flower room) killed one of my master kush half way into its flush. thoes are on the right their, or just the one -the other is probly in the bathroom getting flushed. -allmost a cubic meter of gdp their, only 4 plants and the filled in perfict i mean the even canopy -i move them around much like tetris to get them all under the plamp in the right place.

master kush #1 -the gumbo flavored one, i have onother that i still have untill i find the more potent plant. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /019-6.jpg
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GDP BUDS http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /012-2.jpg
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Postby stiky dodo dumb » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:54 pm

more pics of the spread, http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /017-8.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /023-7.jpg
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i only kept 1 tgu male clone to polinate cause its soo big and i didnt need to waist the space of two http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /025-5.jpg

the indoor-deticated vegg area is in my bedroom closet with poly tarp protecting the floor so run off is contained -i use a turky baster for exess runoff. soo far soo good but im enetering the stage where i need to re-pot and some are much older then the gdp wich are average size in this area- gdp is vegging nicely for me now -for some time i had toruble getting them to grow into monsters befor flowering. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /027-4.jpg
-romulan are the smallest in this next pic, their pots are labled i just havent shoved anything in the soil.
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ghetto reflector :arrow:
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Postby jackel » Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:43 pm

looks like not enuff light in that flower room. unless its on a mover id say u need another light to make ur yields come up. thats just me.
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Postby stiky dodo dumb » Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:13 am

idealy id have the 400w in their too and buy a 250w-400w galaxy to vegg/w i have maxed my capabilities w/o haveing to overhual the wireing in our house its just not wired for major apliances upstairs -in the garage i could prolly do that but it gets cold and we have a 55 ford truck and a 63 split window corvette in their -we would have to fix up and sell one off but thats been planed on allready lol i get allright sized nugs even on the perimiter i try to get the plants that are setting fruit under closest so they get the best start but ive kept my gdp under the middle for a while i have 3 fans -actually 4 counting the one in the hut for curculation only -3intake/exhuast fans the deal is we have no other space deticated for this soo i do what i can w/what i got i try to source the best products though.
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Postby stiky dodo dumb » Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:50 am

what i want to do actually is get a huge reflector like the bigest square reflector sunsystem makes.
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Postby jackel » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:55 pm

get a perabolic reflector, there huge and throw a wide ass spectrum. and get a mover.
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Postby stiky dodo dumb » Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:28 pm

theas ones i had outside since last thursday, they where in the ground behind the shed in good sunlight but i put them in 5 gal pots 'exept for the male' under the window where i had maui and blue mariage pre-flowered the season befor last. they might have kept flowering if i didnt move them behind the shed soo im hopeing theas will finish for some may flowers, last season i had may flowers but this is a breeding project. the male is tgu x maui i think, it hame from a tgu bud i grew last season.
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1 maui, 1 romulan, 1master kush, 2gdp, 2tgu -females in 5 gallons and 1 tgu male in 15 gallons.

theas are my plants for outside this year, maui is in the back on the left 3 gdp up front and center and on the left and in back theirs 2 tgu all are now in 5 gal pots. i just transplanted the tgu -gdp really needed the extra soil to blow up like that, i have some in 1 gallons cloned the same time but half as big. theas are gunna over grow my hydro hut but their no other options untill may 10 or my flowering crop finishes, i will have room then :!:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 002-15.jpg

-smaller gdp all cloned the same time, romulan in the middle is comeing around but still looking like garbage. the gdp where transplanted thismorning to 2 gallon pots.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /023-8.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /022-6.jpg

some master kush -the heavier yealding nicer smelling pick, notice the smaller oasis cubes i use -the biger ones are ok but i just used theas to halp with humidity in the dome. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /028-8.jpg
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i harvested some plants soo my flowers spase has been clustered more, its smaller and closer to the light. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /012-3.jpg
gdp, notice the dif in pots -the closest one is taller and narrow the others are short and wider. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 013-14.jpg

gdp flower
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tgu flower http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 005-14.jpg

a few more pics of my bucket, the nute shelf and pump setup. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /020-8.jpg
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Postby chief master bong » Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:55 am

lookin good sticky, nice variety u got goin 8)
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Postby kmfdm4life » Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:34 am

looks great sticky!! The weather is still fucken with me here!! They say its gonna freeze here 2 nights this week! Its not suppose to freeze here after 3/20!! ill try and post more in may thread later, got some pics(wow :roll: )!! Got to go get dirt for my veg. garden!!

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Postby stiky dodo dumb » Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:19 pm

theirs my veggies, the only ones from seed are tomatillo -w/the smaller cages. i even have a drwarf lime tree to add w/our salsa and other munchies. the tomatoes are sweet 100 and a jet setter.
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the outdoor plot is extra sunny, maby too sunny for my spring crop -a little over a month form now ill be putting in plants though, i also need to mix it by shovel again -should take a few day for that caus its just tedieious work about a square foot at a time.
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about where the tip of the pick is where im puting the grow bag, tgu most likely. i have put alot more junk in their but i planed it out and spent like 150 bucks at 3 stores, got an extra t5 toob and some rootech jell i needed.

also 2 bags of ocian forest from the grow shop to mix in w/the amendments so its a little 'softer off the bat. from ace i got 2 bags of compost, mixed a bag and a half in the row and ill put the rest in the growbags dirt also 2 bags of this shreaded red ceader mulch for the veggies i wanted to test out. i think ill get big nugets of mulch when the time comes soo its easier sifting out the wood at the end of the season -soo i can turn it a couple times in the off season w/o any mulch. at a local nursey/garden supply chain i got a huge fuckin bag of omri listed vermaculite garonteed aspestos free -last year i added perlite but soo much added mulch has composted down that its a fairly dince soil now so instead of mor eperlite i thought of vermaculite for the added water retention value -along w/mulch i should have no worries.

also from ebstone organics -dolimite lime, guano -i box of each to add a little more nitrogen (its like 9-3-1 i think) the lime is to offset the compost ammendment. dr earth starter fertilizer 2-4-2 to compleat the balance -i added sul-po-mag way back in december i think or janurey for k and mag. - forgot about that when talking to jackel earlier, soo ive got a fairly balanced npk off the bat -it'll get watered to keep moist up till i plant may 10 soo the biology doesnt die and the compost is encuraged -i also got a bag of earth worm castings 1 cubic foot added to the 15x4ft row. ill get some more for the veggies in the ground and the last grow bag.

i mixed it all up bay runing back and forth with my pick then dug in one shovel at a time shaking it together moveing the shovel as im lifting. -i found 2 more little grubs soo ill take a pic of them to show, they crawls around when it warms up.
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