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by **stiky dodo dumb** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:14 pm

so ive finally taken some pics of the grow and i have new strains, some are bag seed from some seariously good and sweet smelling herb, others are packs i got for $50 bucks each at a compassion center here in california. the packs are of 14 seeds exept i was shorted 4 from 1 pack, that blows.

big bud, sensi star and master kush are my new bees and will be put into soil today (they germinated for 3 days soo far) the seeds i picked from the unkown bud are allready sprouted and i think one was from dif nug so i sperated that and labled it dif. OH and i found a bean in one of me buds of outdoor TGU sensimilla, it really i seedless smoke i was just cutting up a nug to roll thismorning and out poped a tiger stiped seed. i germed right away, we'll stay updated on that. (i really cant say why or how, my maui had a bean i think last year so it could of grown a lone banana some where out of distress but this seed was taken from the matured TGU the ONLY seed i have found yet and i hope its not a hermi. boy or girl im outing this plant to work :!:

you can keep doods in vegg right, clone them an all or do they set little single flowers like some of the biger mother palnts?

im still puting plans to paper and detailing it but i still need my maui to come back around befor i can do anything and i may just take my time finding a good father. i aim at makeing seeds of each of my 4 clones to keep incase of emergancy, if we where to move of the big quake hits. or simply cuz i want a better yeald w/GDP.

i can go to seed with this next cycle cause my outdoor was soo plentafull, i can afford to do it so why not right :!:

i am still desideing wich strain to use, still have my black domina beans -thoes are the only ones i didnt germ recently. i also still have to wait to root threw the doods of each veriety and find the ideal dady for my hooch.

im thinking master kush or sensi star will be the ones, but notheing is excluded untill i see some petenchal from it. big bud is mostly second guessed or overlooked cause its accused of low potency but i never smoked it and see that alot of folks use it to breed/w. i even tosed some names around for fun, purple kush(it's been donw befor) grand master purple(from dunguns and dragons hehe) if master kush is used. -that master kush BTW i found out is a hundu/skunk that had to come from nervana, not really a master kush as the skunk is not elaborated upon, its sertanly not a double kush as dutch passion and some other banks have on deck.

Granddady purple is big bud x purple urkle so i dont know really if another whack at big bud would get it to yeald finally or retain the norm growth -i dont know what big bud would do with TGU, i do know ill clone the better female of each strain and make a hard thought out choice strain to polinate. i generally hear more good then bad surounding big bud.

i also know ive allways liked sensi star for her aroma, more of a leafy bud but very good qualities.

theas are shots of nugs maturing right now, harvest comeing in around 3 weeks.
TGU http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 009-11.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /028-2.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /029-1.jpg

GDP http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... cs/026.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /022-1.jpg

BlackDomina
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /019-2.jpg

the tgu and black domina have a week and a half on the GDP flowers

my vegg cab http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 013-10.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /014-6.jpg

this maui girl has been through hell and just in the last week she started this, what happend is i want out of town and my brother tended the gardens -i had lots of dea leafs on the ground, dieing leafs yellow leafs allaround the budding plants. that held the fruit set back a little, not soo great but their on track now and as you can see the vegg area is booming. the begining of the month everything looked like the smallest GDP their, and that GDP was raised from the dead.

clone of GDP
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /016-6.jpg

the flower area, im flowering a romulan plant to find its sex. from what i can find on it she grows squat and yealds low so i'll toss it if its a dood. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /018-2.jpg

by **kmfdm4life** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:40 am

Looks nice, keep up the good work!!

by **stiky dodo dumb** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:16 am

so the romulan is a female and has been put back into vegg, i toped it to induce growth of the side nodes so i can clone sooner. hopefully i can get some romulan in along with maui and all the others to be seeded. i have a TGU reveging also under a t5 rig in another closet, my vegg cab is maxed out right now with the breeding program underway. soo far 4/5 sensi star have sprouted, 3/5 big bud, and 1/5 master kush -this is less then a week after planting and 9/9 of this mistery weed that i thought was awsome, theas could be auto flower gens so ill treat theas with CAUTION not useing any males but cloneing anything that looks good drowth wize. id like to flower them too and see wich has a heavier fruit set but id rather focus on finding the dood or doods to polinate my clones.

took down 2 black dominas today, they wern't showing any more growth and w/no bananas or seeds this time arround and they hardened up quickly. i had a few big leafs grow PM on the biger blade and only on the black domina so i cut them down rather spray the whole crop.

by **stiky dodo dumb** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:21 pm

well some of my seeds havent came up yet so i went looking for them to see the issue, some havnt even grown any more then when they were planted after germination. their not slimy but one i found had been infested (the actual seed had bugs in it) by a very tine white soil mite or gnat, they look like the fungus gnat preditors but they where like colinizing. one seed had its contents liquified like the tap root to be was all mush as if decomposing, no bugs where found on this seed just goop. another big bud seed had excaped its shell but just curled up and yellowe drather then grow up and out of the dirt.

it looks like only 2 master kush will servive for sure and another 3 will have a slow time if they havent been infested, if so they wont make it i bet.

one thing i will do is water them all with Gnatrol-2 and resist any fungus gnat sfrom desrtoying clone stock or any healthy seed sprouts. i have seen fungus gnat larvea when cloneing in oasis in the past, they grow in all mediums i think.

on a good note the single TGU seed has made it out of the dirt, didnt take long at all after germination to come up -wich is why i went looking for the other half of the babies when the rest are growing well and responded well after germination. i think happy frog soil rocks and seeds are likeing it, they would like biger pots soon but im maxed for space till the TGU and GDP are done. this bean is very specal so ill favor it over anyother if male, if famale then i guess it can be compared to the origina cut and well go from their.

by **stiky dodo dumb** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:24 pm

by **stiky dodo dumb** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:55 am

today i took a look around and re-poted and over a couple smokes i desided to flower the bigest plants i have, 6-7 the are just way biger then the sprouts that are the core of my breeding program. tonight is the first dark period and tomarrow is day 1 of 12/12.

i will go back to this thread and re-start the polination trials but for now they will all vegg for 60-70 more days and ill take it from their. look for a stand out dady and find some females of the sensi star, big bud, master kush and the unamed seeds that have really wide leafs.

took a clone of my romulan girl and flowered it, that plant was the only one to develop PM of the leafs resently but i sprayed down them all tonight anyways with mildue cure by safergro.

i may vary well pop 4 more black domina cause the one i kept is herming very easily or even naturally i will take this next cycle and see if it gets the cut or not. i was very good at not interupting the light periods and their really isn't much potency from her compared to all others. ill get back with more reports after i smoke another bowl of it and look for seeds first.

by **stiky dodo dumb** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:31 am

well its just not as heady of a smoke as all the others, its sort of a creeper and no cerebral makes it seem like bunk. (smoked a quarted gram in a bowl)

im smokeing the second bowl now and theirs a slight cerebral but more of a relaxing laid back fealing, nothing like the other strains that get the cerbral buzz after the first toke. ive got a clear mind actually and quite the body effect, mind you that its a pure indica hybrid (no sativa at all) it exploads into flower and needs to be trained, toped, scroged or all of the above to chanel that energy into multiple tops. this can double the yeald, top early and top tiwce if you can (note to self)

i think ima start 5 of em right now lol, the bud is dence but too hairy and the yeald this time a round was shit. like less bud from two plants then from the one huge plant befor that had a great fruit set and early toping w/lots of vegg time. this round was all streachy and was messed up i think cause i went out of town and caue it didnt branch as much really, after i came back some green came back too but not alot.

by **stiky dodo dumb** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:19 pm

well i dint touch the BD seeds, i have enough on my plate i think. one master kush seed was a twin and i seperated it with a toothpick several days ago. only the biger start made it though, and its got a fuckin weard looking start like one leaf not two, i think its a retard lol. another master kush has three nodes at its first set, like its gunna be a mutant.

2 sensi stars are looking like fungus gnats are eating it alive, maby its the preditor bugs eating roots though. leafs got very rinkly and the top node turned white, they look ill for reals

its weard cause besides the retarded master kush's the rest are rolling along fine, theas two look like shit and have for about 5 days now. -i may transplant, look for root troubles along the way.

by **stiky dodo dumb** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:57 pm

ill snap a pic tomarrow of this plant, a masterkush that has three sets of nods to start instead of one. i think this is called trifoliar anyway it should be a bushier one if its got more nodes. i prolly wont use it to breed if its a dood cause of the mutation but its cool, hoping it stays compact and 3-noded.

also on a side note i was turning over my outdoor weed patch yesteday befor it froze over and rained and found like 18 over-wintering caterpillers, i had a rough bought with them this season and read that turning over the soil wid-winter can help offset their pupilation -might wake them up and then they freez to death. but otherwize they burrow 6 inches more or less into a chunk of dirt of clay and stay alive till the ground warms then i guess moths crawl out of the ground and start laying eggs? pupilation is like forming a cocoon but theas fuckers are just fat and white, round cause their curled up sleeping but about a quarter in size and very visable on the black dirt. i also figured id get ahead of the invading ive and airate the soil for good barcteiums and fungi.

by **chief master bong** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:47 pm

ive had 2 mutated plants before with the extra node but i never got to harvest either of em :oops:

hopefully its a gurl tho it would be interesting to watch her flower.

by **jackel** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:40 pm

the plants generalyl grow out of that mutation. its a good mutation in that if it stays, it will make buds denser.

by **stiky dodo dumb** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:18 pm

all the plants got a shower of mildue cure 2 days ago, took pics and tried to upload but by battery failed. ive been makeing holiday cookies yesterday and more ginger hash cookies and fudg today. thismorning i germed 4 more sensi star and 4 more black domina. cuz the stars i have two went shity on me and the other two are looking close to the same, black domina is touted for potency and thats why im going back to that -didnt find potency in the last picks just a hermi trait that i hope doesnt repeat.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /021-3.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /020-4.jpg
thoes r of the 3 headed master kush. next is the tgu, i found an empty seed pouch in a maui bud in that big ol turkey bag i have soo im looking for a bean in a bud pile :lol:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /019-4.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /018-4.jpg

i have some pics of powdery mildue on some plants i beleave r true blue berry, i had some on the biger tgu in the flower room and sprayed the romulan a week ago cause it had some begining to form. this mildue cure is basically 83%plant oils and some other stuff, it may kill bugs too by smothering them but i dont know. i do know the company makes a bug cure too, probly the same base omri rated.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /017-7.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /015-9.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /016-8.jpg

theas GDP clones are exaples of how the leafs yellow allod and the nodes stay green till the roots can set and i can lightly feed it. they had pm forming too, at the stems. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /022-3.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /023-3.jpg

romulan with huge shiny 9 blade leafs
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 009-13.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /010-8.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 008-12.jpg

the tru blueberry batch
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 013-12.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 012-12.jpg

GDP
untopped (ive tied it down a little today) :arrow:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 011-11.jpg
topped :arrow:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /004-9.jpg

TGU
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... 006-10.jpg

the temps are controled with a 95cfm cold air intake fan, it turns off at night cuz we have neer freezing temps and i donk like my room geting below 68-67f. with the 400w cab blowing air constantly heating the room slightly i need to counter that or ill go above 75. soo far ive stayed below 80f, im trying to keep good temps and induce purple growth. a timer turns the intake off an hour after and befor the 600 kickes on wich counters the output from that too wich is ehausted out the room but ambient heat is quite warm.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /002-9.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x62/ ... /001-9.jpg

by **stiky dodo dumb** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:05 pm

i found that this bio bizz stuff is made of only molassis or kelp or a combo of the two, im useing the bloom till its gone but i might go in the direction of roots organics and their hpk thats got no N, guano for P, and langbeinite thats a potassium magnesium sulfate mineral with formula: K2Mg2(SO4)3.

in english thats potassium sulfate with magnesium built in, magnesium deficency is most common link to leaf issues. mag and nitrogen(grow ferts) help keep things green, soo if your grow fert has mag in it your probly better off then not haveing any. more importantly if your bloom fert has mag in it your probly not gunna have leaf troubles throught that cycle, i added a high magnisium molassis (unsulfered) from safeway for a while but i dont know if more mollasis is needed as the bloom has it allready, the grow is only mollasis and smells like fresh coffie beans.

im thinking of staying with bio bizz and just flowering with roots organics hpk, also looking into 'down to earth' brand omri rated liquids. they have a 5-5-5 all purpas blend that might be good for vegg, liquide bone meal doesnt sound great though.

by **kmfdm4life** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:37 pm

Well I hope all goes well for you!!

by **stiky dodo dumb** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:30 pm

thank you man, it takes time to build. im gunna find a suiting dood to bust all over my clone stock. then if i am successfull ill have hundreds of seeds of various strains, elite cali shtuff. it should be viable for years so i wont have to seed again for a while.

im looking inot how long pollen is viable after releas to see if the next cycle way be seeded aswell or if the pollen is dead/dehydrated and dacayed.

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